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Actually there’s a lot of research and knowledge supporting the fact that vaccines are NOT necessary. It is simply another thing that today’s health system is super big on, just like hospital births and c-sections. And a lot of people actually have long term and short term complications from getting vaccines. Ahem.
Dang guys, you thought I didn’t check my activity log every now and then? Because I knew shit like this would pop up. And, I just finished my block exam and am feeling fiesty.
Actually you’re wrong. That ‘research’ is either completely fabricated OR grossly misinterprets the data OR uses shitty research techniques to get the data they want- all which are grossly unethical, in case you’re curious. I’ve got slides from a recent lecture on vaccines (aka why I am so fired up about this nonsense). You can check out the citations on each slide if you don’t believe me… something unsurprisingly missing from literally every anti-vaccine comment I’ve gotten and website that I have visited. Show me your sources, honey, and if you do, I will blow them out of the water because not a single one stands up to current scientific research standards.
There are however tomes and tomes of research for the safety end efficacy of vaccines. Don’t believe me? Look at a simple google scholar search.
So! Here we go!
Holy shit, it’s almost like vaccines SAVE SOCIETY MONEY. In fact, they give money back to society, along with the other programs indicated by red arrows. Which would be really weird for something that is just a healthcare fad like c-sections and hospital births.
And most people have no complications for getting vaccines, and if they do, most of them are short term. In fact, it is devilishly hard to prove an adverse effect was because of a vaccine. Why? Because it’s how we’re wired. We falsely see connections and causes where there are none (called a type 1 error; you are rejecting a true null hypothesis). People are more likely to attribute an adverse health event to a shot- even if that shot is the placebo and the numbers are just the background rate for whatever health event in the population.
And here is a graph showing the sample sizes necessary to prove that an adverse event is caused or related to a vaccine.
You know what, it was a really good lecture and I’m going to share more more relevant slides in case any one else feels like contradicting me.
These slides show the public health impact of vaccines. Note the differences between the historical peak and post-vaccine era deaths columns. Because saving literally thousands of lives is totally a conspiracy you should beware of.
And this is why herd immunity is so important! See how high it has to be for measles? Guess what we’re seeing outbreaks of thanks to anti-vaxxers? Don’t forget that one of the deadly complications of measles is SSPE.
Look how Hepatitis A infections in older adults when down after kids started getting immunized. Shocking! Could vaccines be… good for …. everyone????
Anti-vaxxers are a danger to the world and we need to stop them tbh
GODDAMMIT. I AM SICK OF THESE ANTI-VAXXER SHIT GOBLINS.
VACCINATE THOSE WHO CAN BE VACCINATED TO PROTECT THOSE WHO LEGITIMATELY CANNOT.
I DON’T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU THINK YOU’RE A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE FLOATING AROUND IN YOUR SPARKLY CLOUD OF YOUR OWN SELF RIGHTEOUS FARTS THAT WILL PROTECT YOU FROM DISEASES LIKE POLIO.
GET. A. GODDAMN. CLUE. THEN GET VACCINATED. VACCINATE YOUR SPAWN.
YOUR BATSHIT BELIEFS ARE KILLING PEOPLE.
In my opinion, refusing to vaccinate a child who can be vaccinated is tantamount to medical neglect. I am 100% done with being nice to anti-vaxxers. We need to bring back exiling people. Andrew Wakefield and Jenny McCarthy are the first to go.
So what’s your opinion on delaying the vaccine schedule?
For review, here’s the importance of vaccination in a few easy charts. But I’ll let actual doctors answer this further:
"[Dr. William Schaffner] said creating worry over the recommended immunization schedule — up to 24 shots by the age of 2 and up to five pokes per visit — is misleading and unfounded. ‘The area is not gray. There is no injury to children getting vaccinations simultaneously. A child’s immune system is more capable, powerful and flexible than you would think it is,’ Schaffner said.
Schaffner said that altering the timing of vaccines may seem like a compromise but it still poses a serious health risk because a child remains susceptible to vaccine preventable illnesses for longer periods of time. He said it also puts others, including people with compromised immunity and even fully vaccinated individuals, at risk by exposing communities at large to preventable diseases. And, he said, delaying vaccinations is more costly and makes it more likely a child never completes the full schedule necessary for protection against disease. ‘Vaccines spread out are often vaccines not received,’ he said.” (Source)
According to Dr. Kristen A. Feemster and Dr. Paul Offit, delaying vaccines is dangerous because “vaccines are recommended at certain ages and intervals to optimize the immune response, ensure protection when a child is most at risk for disease acquisition, and minimize adverse events.” They also discuss the implications of a recent study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, which found that delaying vaccinations under the guise of preventing adverse effects actually correlates with an INCREASE in adverse effects experienced by older toddlers, ranging from mild fevers to seizures. [Citation: “Delaying Vaccination Is Not a Safer Choice”, Kristen A. Feemster, MD, MPH, MSHPR; Paul Offit, MD, JAMA Pediatr. 2013;167(12):1097-1098. doi:10.1001/jamapediatrics.2013.3071.]
Here’s Dr. Paul Offit and Dr. Mark Sawyer in a nifty video: “Are We Overwhelming the Immune System With Too Many Vaccines?” http://youtu.be/6JibQ7LX5Uk (Spoiler alert: No)
And here’s Dr. Mark Sawyer in another fab video: “Is it safe for a child to receive multiple vaccinations?” http://youtu.be/AD8AsogWq2w (Spoiler alert: Yes)
Here’s another summary of why there’s no medical benefit to delaying vaccinations, and how it can be harmful.
Plus, you also give your kid MORE shots and office visits if you spread it out. On the delayed schedule chosen by most parents who skip vaccinations, kids “will have only received immunity against eight diseases by 15 months” and “ miss out on measles, rubella, chickenpox, Hep A, and Hep B.” But when children are vaccinated by the CDC’s vaccine schedule, they have immunity to over 14 diseases by the age of 24 months.
Unnecessarily delaying childhood vaccines only increases the number of vaccines, the amount of office visits, and most critically, the length of time children are vulnerable to disease.
Bonus reading! Here’s an excellent critique of Dr. Bob Sears’ alternative schedule: http://www.immunize.org/concerns/offit_moser2009.pdf
Personally, I 100% condemn putting children and immunocompromised people in danger because parents mistakenly think there’s something wrong with a vaccination schedule demonstrated to be the most scientifically and medically sound for decades by actual scientists and pediatricians. Are vaccines 100% safe? No. But complications are exceedingly rare, and in the overwhelming majority of cases, are a mild fever and soreness at the injection site.
But when some parents elect not to vaccinate their children, other parents are never even get the chance. A recent USA Today article highlighted the stories of Kathryn Riffenburg and Jon Alcaide, who lost their nine week old son to whooping cough; and Michaela Mitchell and her ten-year old son who lives with severe physical disabilities after nearly dying of meningitis at age 6. Both children contracted a preventable disease because they were younger than the recommended age for the appropriate vaccine. They were exposed to these illnesses after the diseases were circulating in their communities. The likelihood of an outbreak of diseases like these in children too young to be vaccinated increases exponentially in areas with low vaccination rates.
ABC News’ Chief Health and Medical Editor Dr. Richard Besser interviewed parents who said their choice not to vaccinate for diseases like measles was based on their OWN assessment that there is very little risk that their children would contract disease based on herd immunity and the relative rarity of diseases like measles. Another parent interviewed by Besser nailed how selfish this line of thinking really is, stating, “Parents like them are counting on the fact that most kids get the shots, giving protection to the rest. That’s not fair to everybody else. You’re relying on everybody else to do it for you.”
Another medical professional interviewed by Besser said parents are planning Russian roulette with their children’s lives because they cannot predict if their child will “be the 1 in 1,000 child that’s going to die from that illness.” [Source: ABC News, “Opting out on vaccines?” http://youtu.be/VSu-GHtPdHM]
Finally, writer Lessley Anderson summarizes all this succinctly:
“But there’s a big difference between not eating GMOs and not getting a vaccine. If I don’t eat a corn chip at my local taqueria because I have doubts about the lack of research on GMOs and believe it’s because science and the government are in Monsanto’s pocket, I’m not going to put my dining companions at risk of disease. But if I decide not to vaccinate my kid, I make him a potential carrier. He may be able to fight off measles, mumps, rubella, and other illnesses — but what if he spreads a disease to somebody who, for whatever reason, isn’t so lucky?”
These people are all going too easy on anti-vaxxers. Refusing to vaccinate is, to be blunt, a hate-crime and should be prosecuted as such. It’s also child-abuse on par with this.
You know, my homie and secret best friend Neil deGrasse Tyson said it best….
This isn’t an issue of belief or should even be up for discussion. It’s not a debate- like gravity or that the Earth revolves around the Sun isn’t up for debate. It’s a fact, whether or not you like it. Sorry bro.
And any ‘educated fuck’ knows that vaccines are necessary and everyone who can have them should have them.
Have a lovely day, sugar.A judge has sentenced Herbert and Catherine Schaible with up to seven years in jail after their eight-month-old son, Brandon, died from pneumonia when he was not given medical care.
A judge has sentenced Herbert and Catherine Schaible with up to seven years in jail after their eight-month-old son, Brandon, died from pneumonia when he was not given medical care. The couple, who are Pentecostal and say that medicine is against their religious beliefs, pleaded no contest to third-degree murder in Philadelphia.
The couple were already on probation following the death of another son, Kent, in 2009, also from pneumonia. Kent was two years old at the time. In that case, the Schaibles pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter. A condition of that sentence was that they must seek medical care for their children’s health problems.
According to Herbert Schaible’s police statement, he told investigators, “We believe in divine healing, that Jesus shed blood for our healing and that he died on the cross to break the devil’s power.” A deputy medical examiner told the court that he believed Brandon could have survived if given proper medical treatment.
The judge who handed down the sentence, Benjamin Lerner, told the couple at their sentencing, “You killed two of your children … not God, not your church, not your religious devotion. You.”
The Schaibles have seven other children. All but the oldest, who is over 18, are in foster care.
Refusal to vaccinate is no less reprehensible than what that couple did, and refusal to vaccinate should be punished at least as severely as their negligent homicide of their own children was punished. Vaccination needs to be made mandatory with exemptions only allowed in the case of actual medical contraindications, such as a patient being immunocompromised, and thus unable to take a vaccine.
The problem is that we’ve gone so long without major, life threatening diseases like pertussis, diphtheria, and rubella. Maybe we should go back to the days when polio was prevalent for people to understand the importance of vaccination.
Here’s an idea. If you choose to not have your children immunized against common, preventable diseases, then YOU must be held responsible for ALL medical treatment costs. No public assistance. No tax write offs. Sorry, you’re on your own.
Vaccines are easy to administer and cheap compared to the devastation of major health problems.
Do you suppose the Itsy Bitsy Spider ever made it to the top of that water spout?